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Vanessa Ives ([personal profile] matermali) wrote in [community profile] westwhere2022-11-14 09:12 pm

(closed) there is a me you would not recognize

WHO: Vanessa Ives and The Doctor
WHEN: After the Clocktower
WHERE: Serthica (Vanessa's place to start)
WHAT: Clocktower drama aftermath.
WARNINGS: Topics on mental illness, religion/Hell, curses, murder, self-harm (scratching), and suicidal thoughts may come up. Will edit as needed.

Though she hasn't exactly turned him away and left him in the cold, Vanessa hasn't the energy that she once did to entertain company even with the world falling apart. Her unending suitors have been turned away at the door, and it doesn't help that the Doctor continues to be let in, despite not even living in Minaras. She doesn't care if people talk. Most of them aren't even real, or they're dead already. Let them talk and talk. She has nothing to say.

There's no small-talk from her, no pleasantries. No tea or snacks are offered, and the droid is threatened away any time it attempts to linger for too long in her company. It's role as her 'chaperone' seems to have come at an end. She exists in the in-between, letting the Doctor ramble about this or that and only responding when such a response requires no heart, no yearning. Her distance is quiet, but tolerant. He isn't made to leave, but eye-contact does not carry on. She knows he only wants to bring her cheer, and that makes it all the worse. It's through her guilt that she doesn't banish him for being such a fool.

She sits at the writing desk in her room, inking what must be the thousandth letter by now. It's a private, rather barren space. With her bare toes touching the floor and dark hair loose around her shoulders, Vanessa should be alone in such a state. Most wouldn't be so careless as to follow her right into her room, but he certainly is, and so she is also careless on the matter. As she feels with anything anymore. She would not so easily let others see her in such an unwelcome and casual capacity, but he has already seen her at her worst. What matter is a satin house robe or bare ankles, once another old soul has witnessed some of the ugliness of hers?

He rummages through Vanessa's vanity now, which seems to finally be enough to garner a sharp glance over her shoulder. His restless behavior has been tolerated, but she cannot understand how he can try to act as if anything is fine between them.

"What, precisely, do you want?"
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-11-28 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
For the Doctor, his devotion to her at this profound level is something new and he doesn't entirely understand it, either. While he's charged himself with the care of everyone here (whether they know it or not), there is something wholly different about his commitment and attachment to Vanessa. Truthfully, he wasn't entirely aware until this moment, until speaking the words felt not only necessary, but also like the only truth that's made any sense at all in many long weeks. It means, however, that he's had no time to even think on it, why he felt compelled to say such a thing, and why he would break all of his own rules for her, specifically. Everyone is important, yes, but Vanessa is important to him in a way that he's still trying to sort out.

As often happens for him, though, his own lack of understanding of himself at this moment doesn't preclude him from caring for her in whatever way she'll allow.

"Dangerous is sort of my thing. I know all about danger, I don't hide from it, I run towards it. Well, sometimes, admittedly, it's a bit of a slow jog," he tries for a brief moment of levity, a little softness in his eyes.

"What's dangerous about my sweetness, though?" He asks gently, stroking his thumb across her knuckles. "You're safe with me. Or, I hope you feel that way, in any case. If you asked me to leave, though, I would. If you asked me to stay, I would."

If you asked anything at all of me...

Would he? Anything?

Another question to ruminate over when he's alone. How far would he go for her, truly? And why?
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-11-29 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
He would have left if she’d asked, if she’d truly wanted, but he’d suspected the opposite to be true. It was true for him, too, selfishly. He wouldn’t have been alone in Eidris, but he wouldn’t have been able to wrench himself away from Vanessa, either. If she’d wanted him gone from her space, though, he would have consented and simply stood guard outside, daring anyone to force him away.

What a strange thought, he realizes. To keep vigil outside her residence, to insist that he need to, all the while knowing that in the loosest definition of the word, she’s safe, though not from the insidious shadows that linger in the soul. Is that what would have driven him to stand guard? Or is it something else, something more? He’s stood vigil for others before; for Clara, when she’d been so recently attacked, for Red only a few days ago, when she hadn't been ready for his company. Yet, his commitment to doing the same for Vanessa strikes him as coming from a different place deep within, different from the way he’s stood guard for friends before. He’s reminded of chiding dear Rory once for being so human as to insist on guarding the Pandorica to keep Amy safe, when she was safe in there regardless. He couldn’t fully understand it at the time, what would have compelled his friend to watch over an impenetrable box, to behave beyond all logic and reasoning. Is it similar to what he feels now? What is it? Is that the danger Vanessa speaks of?

Dwelling on such thoughts feels too burdensome and almost frightening, for reasons he can’t understand just now. A different kind of fear, though; one that’s more deeply felt, yet almost thrilling. It also pulls him away from this moment, and this…this is a very nice moment, and he doesn’t want to be pulled away from it at all.

The Doctor doesn’t miss the look in her eyes as she touches him and then his tie, nor does he miss the quickening beat of her heart, which he can feel just from holding one of her hands still. That look that lingers, it’s different. A fondness, an understanding? Something that he could enjoy seeing again. His mind, working so differently than others, analyzes everything about this, the way her touch startles, yet soothes, the way she unravels and yet anchors him. In her eyes, he feels adrift and scattered, yet whole. Contradictions, feelings that make no sense. Is that love, he wonders? A different sort of madness? He should know, he’s not unfamiliar with love at all because he’s loved so many. But no, that’s another lie. He does love so many, but this isn’t like that. It’s terrifying and dangerous and…and…?

The thought lingers. What else, what else could it be? Too much. Too much, pulling him away from her when she’s right here. Vanessa, with her smiles rising and falling too quickly, like a shadow passing over the sun, making him long for a glimpse again.

"Well," he says, with a briefly cheeky smile. "Who better than the pair of us?"

Yet again, not understanding why nor wanting to at the moment, the Doctor feels the urge to be more indulgent with her, to fuss and offer as much tenderness as she’ll allow. Guilt over not being able to protect her better in the labyrinth? A surge of that feeling he doesn’t understand that’s sitting wedged between his hearts? Whatever it is, he follows his instinct, leaning in a bit, enough to kiss her wrist briefly.

"A sleepover! I do love those. I think I do, anyway. What’s not to love? You’re here, I’m here, and if luck is with us tonight, there will be cake. Unless you’re too tired. Suppose you must be. Have you slept? Have you been able to? I could make a bit of cake while you sleep, we’ll have it in the morning for breakfast," he rambles, nervous excitement, anchoring himself by kissing her wrist again.
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-11-29 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Though he hasn’t asked directly about the scratch marks, context clues tell him much of the story; the way she’d fidgeted earlier, bundling herself up when she hasn’t before, to hide away how she’s marked herself. He tends to notice more than he often lets on and though he’s never been one to shy away from asking questions, this is different.

A kiss to her skin erases nothing physically, but he sees how it seems to soften her and he thinks perhaps if he can leave better marks in his wake, it might be enough to stop her harming herself again, without needing to confront her directly or draw undue attention to it. He’s been amongst humans enough now to understand that there are…intangible things which can be wielded for comfort and healing, things which at times elude his scientifically-oriented mind, yet which have proven themselves to be true. Time will tell, but now he’s started down this path and she’s receptive, he feels committed to this, to her.

“You save cake for breakfast?” He grins brightly, latching onto that, of all things. Of course he would. “After my hearts, you are.”

Sleep, of course, is a separate challenge all its own. The Doctor does need sleep, though he’s had far less lately than he should, so on some level, he understands her. Slowing down enough to sleep is often his biggest challenge, but here in Serthica, it’s far more than that. The things that haunt him have free reign in sleep and he imagines the same to be true for her.

“So we won’t sleep. There’s plenty of fun to be had at night, oh the best sort of fun, especially the pair of us,” he grins, biting at his lip a little. Though oblivious to flirting at times, he does enjoy it, even if he fumbles and gets it wrong sometimes. “I have stories I can tell you, so many, in fact.”
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-11-30 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor enfolds her easily, shifting carefully just a bit so it's more comfortable for both of them. He reflects, not for the first time, that he's hardly sat still quite like this in a very long time. Is this what he does now? The weight of Vanessa against his chest feels strangely...not unpleasant. Though, her question immediately sobers him.

His instinct is to be flippant or ignore the query outright. Deeper questions like that, digging down to the root of him, well, he doesn't like those at all. To answer it truthfully would be like exposing an open wound to the elements, to invite pain and suffering. In the hands of nearly anyone else, such secrets could be wielded against him. To know what frightens the Doctor? How could any revelations in that regard be held in kindness? Yet, this isn't just anyone, this is Vanessa Ives, who has seen so much of his soul already.

He'd been terribly afraid at the summit, his greatest fear being that of himself, of hurting her and everyone else around him. But she knows that already and that isn't why she asked the question.

"Keep that up, I like that," he notes distractedly, as she fiddles with his tie. Not answering her question, not yet. He's working himself up to it.

"What a question! Not, what's your favorite color, Doctor or tell me about that time you sat and watched a supernova while eating a bowl full of Jelly Babies. No, no, we're skipping right to the harder stuff. Well, frightening moments - a few of those knocking about over the years. Had to eat a salami sandwich without bread once - now, you may think, well, how could it have been a sandwich at all then? That answers the question. Frightening, to say the least."

He pauses, fidgeting a little, suddenly busying himself with stroking his fingers through her hair. "Where was I...right, yes, most afraid." He's rambling because he doesn't do this. "I don't talk about these things, you know. Only with myself and that's terrifying enough."

But this is Vanessa, and so much of what happened in that labyrinth changed things irreparably for him. He's connected to her in ways he both can't explain and yet can't deny.

"Most afraid. Well. That moment when you're completely yourself and then you're not. When something you don't completely know or understand comes into your mind and takes hold of you. But the thing is, it wasn't there only a second ago. I was me, perfectly me, and then I wasn't. I wasn't alone. There was something just...there, with me, with my voice but not my voice, my words but not my words. The shape of me, and I was trapped in my mind. A long time ago now."

He hasn't finished answering her question, but he stops there for now because again, he doesn't do this sort of thing. It took him long enough to even work up to saying the words. Now they're out there and he remembers that moment, sitting inside of it again, he feels so far removed from how he survived it at all.
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-12-01 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
He has the sense, as he walks the rugged and uncertain path of his own words, that if he would have stopped himself because he couldn't manage to speak of his greatest terror at any length, Vanessa would have allowed him. The certainty of that, more than anything, makes him feel like he's safe with her. The Doctor doesn't talk about how he feels, generally, not without some prompting, a level of trust, and trying to deflect before he can land on the truth. Even then, it's not always a given. When he can speak of deeper and more emotionally challenging topics as it pertains to himself, he finds it easier talking around it, when he can convey the facts as they are in a situation, while not necessarily enumerating every emotion he felt in particular.

She could have stopped him at some point, tried to interject, to prod him along faster. He rambles so quickly, there was scarcely a moment to pause, yet she could have insisted he get to the point. Instead, he's met with unspoken and tender understanding as she presses closer. It's a new sensation for him, as so much has been recently. It's not unwanted, only...unfamiliar, something to try and understand better, though he reasons that if he enjoys it when she nuzzles closer to his neck, she must surely enjoy it reciprocated? An experiment, then, a chance to know her better. What does she like? In the midst of dredging up terrible memories, he finds himself distracted with the promise of her smiling again at him.

He turns a little, allowing his cheek to rest against the top of her head. At least a full minute must pass like this, nothing else said, only the Doctor taking note of every detail. How many seconds between each of her breaths and her heartbeats? The way her fingers curl against his tie. He thinks of the scratch marks on her skin again; punishing herself, trying to forget, trying to make it all go away, substituting one kind of pain for another? Maybe in holding each other like this, they can't beat back the dark, but they can be their own sort of light.

"A very brave woman saved me from it," he confesses at last. "I didn't even know her, but she sacrificed herself to help me. A hand reaching out in the dark."

He'd like to believe he could have saved himself. Perhaps he could have, if it was only him and the entity. Unfortunately, there were others trapped with him and they'd been certain he should be the one tossed out.

"I don't know what that thing was. Perhaps as old as time," he notes, his voice briefly a million miles away.
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-12-02 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
She's chipping away at him, slowly, in undeniable ways. He doesn't have to allow it, he could stop her and simply refuse to answer. He's still operating under the assumption that withholding the most intimate of details wouldn't cause her to suddenly stand in judgment of him, yet it would inhibit a greater intimacy between them. He's so rarely breached this line with anyone and part of him remains ever curious, ever more alarmed at the power she holds with her mere words and touch. He's not entirely sure how it happened and it's caught him off guard. Was he so desperate to be known that he's now latched on? What does he owe her?

Part of his willingness to answer, admittedly, is an almost scientific inquiry as well. How far will this go? What awaits them at the end of it? If he gives her what she asks of him, what might he gain in return? He can't begin to guess and he's unsure what he would hope to receive.

"No one should ever die for me," the Doctor's voice is firm, leaving no room for doubt in this.

But her second question gives him pause. He's not alarmed by it, given that he's asked equally intrusive questions of others in his time. It takes consideration to answer, not because it troubles him, but he's genuinely curious why she might like to know. Perhaps the why will reveal itself when he answers.

Covering her hand, he answers her with a truth that has a twist to it. Not a direct answer, but an answer all the same, and one that allows him more control over the way he wields his words and his perspective on what happened.

"This moment between us, it's a good one, I think, as moments go. Certainly, could do with a few improvements but...I'm glad to be here for it."

He's glad he didn't die and he's sad that someone else did. Like so many things with the Doctor, the two truths live together quite well in his head.
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-12-03 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Their thoughts run astray, apart from each other briefly. This moment could be improved upon, in his mind, by grander things far beyond any shortcomings she may perceive in herself. Had he the ability and resources, they would be together in his TARDIS, journeying across the universe, dancing through the stars, watching a galaxy spark to life. He wants to show her the big, beautiful things she can't possibly fathom, and the small things even he forgets to pay attention to. Because she is worth all of that, and far more than he could ever hope to say aloud. Maybe one day he'll try.

That twitch in her hand, slight and almost imperceptible though it is, cannot be missed. He's too aware of her now, she's too close, and so the slight movement only compels his hand to tighten. She belongs here; here, with him, and he would be very against the notion if she tried to move.

"Lamentable disposition? Shroud?" He repeats her words back, something disagreeable in his tone. "No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. Lamentable - lamentable for whom exactly? Not for my sake. For yours, yes, but that's only because I like your smile. Very much, actually. Bit greedy for it, if we're being honest. I know there hasn't been reason enough for it lately, but we'll get there. It's what I meant by improving the moment. If I had my way - we'd be having that dance by now, at the very least," he smiles a little, in spite of anything. He doesn't know if it's real or not, but it's real enough for her sake.

"And your shroud, well, look at me." He speaks softly, though a bit insistent. "I mean it, really. Look at me. Would I rather be anywhere else? So we're beneath your shroud, so what? Both of us huddled under there together, keeping out the rain. Not so bad at the moment. We'll just shrug it off when we're ready to come up for air. And cake," he grins a little, stroking his thumb across her cheek.
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[personal profile] thedreamer 2022-12-04 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If he were paying enough attention to his own self at the moment, the Doctor might question why it is that he's suddenly holding his breath far longer than is necessary, while Vanessa caresses perilously close to his lips.

Of course, he can hold his breath a remarkably long time, far longer than humans, but for the moment, he seems to be held in stasis by the promise of her touch alone. To take a breath now, even just the slightest movement, might cause her to pull away, or - dangerously - to draw closer. No, no, best not to move then. Better not to risk it either way. The kiss to his cheek is pleasantly soft and sweet, but then he's already moving on to the promise of cake, the safest and easiest treat to consider partaking in at the moment.

Though he does allow her to pull away now, simply for the sake of this promised sweet, his hand only parts from hers with a final kiss. There, now he's sated so he'll drop her hand and move to follow her.

"Always my motto of course! Why put off anything good when you can have it now," he grins. Truly, he's only speaking of the cake, though perhaps if thought at with any length, his words could have a double meaning he remains unaware of for now.