[ But it's not Five's fault, either. They all have a little part in that, and more of it goes back to Reginald, above anyone. He's been pulling the strings for a while, and Ben can see that, now that he's here, and after hearing some of what Viktor was put through. Plenty of blame to go around. ]

[ Ben closes his eyes, sighs, opens his eyes with a frown then admits: ] I'm not surprised to hear that.

[ They attract apocalypses. He has to smile. ] We're just going to have to figure that out, too. And...it'll probably lead to another.