[ That makes Caitlyn even more wonderful, and at her question, Clara laughs softly, fondly. ]

He is. But not in a bad way, not like my dad shouting to wear a helmet. I can't lie to him about this stuff anyway, even by omission. He's impossible and nosey and always knows. He'll usually wait me out, and then drag it out of me once he's lost his patience.

[ It's rare that Clara lets it get that far, but she makes sure to make it clear, she'll tell the Doctor on her own. As they've been talking, she's glanced every now and then at the mass of ruins to try and find a way in. When Caitlyn spots one, Clara heads that way with her. ]

Glad I have good shoes for climbing this time around. If we stay close to the wall and the steps start to go, it looks like there might be good footholds. At least from here.